light and power and be able to stay down there. looking at the situation, is that really still the only option continue to wait and try to keep the line, the um bell call cord of communication, going here, clibt? >> you know, tamron, if you were the agent in charge, i would say, look, boss, here. we have a cost benefit analysis of. is there any reason to go in today, tactically, opposed to two days ago or two days from now? has the threat to the little boy's life increased? if not, let's not do anything that's going to -- going to get him hurt and you as the on-scene commander have to make that decision, hopefully we all work together and make the right decision. >> all right. clint van zant. before you go, have you seen anything like this before? does this compare to anything in the past? >> sure. i was involved in one where we had a 5-year-old boy, same age and his mother kidnapped and that situation had to resolve it tactically. i was at waco.